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Neil deGrasse Tyson on “Intelligent Design” at Beyond Belief

December 13, 2010 | In: Web design

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This clip picks up where the one I’m responding to (“Gods retreat from cosmology”) leaves off — it is advisable that you watch that clip first. Both clips are from Neil deGrasse Tyson’s presentation titled “The Perimeter of Ignorance” at Beyond Belief 2006. Among other things, Tyson asserts that the religiosity of some of history’s greatest scientists and their willingness to invoke the philosophy of intelligent design limited the scope of their inquiry into the natural world, to the detriment of scientific progress in general.



26 Responses to Neil deGrasse Tyson on “Intelligent Design” at Beyond Belief

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surshot56

December 13th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

@salmagnum You really believe the earth is 6000 years old? WOW theres no stopping you huh? You’re already convinced that man and dinosaurs walked together? So, if we look at it with your perspective Noah had dinosaurs on his ark right? Since man and dinosaurs walked together. Where are the dinosaurs? Where did the water go? Why isn’t there a thick level of fossils in the layer of the earth where everything was killed by the flood? You don’ have to answer my questions. Good day.

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surshot56

December 13th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

@salmagnum How is the fossil record false? WTF are you talking about? Evolution is a fact big man get used to it. Buried fossil records? You must be out your goddamn mind.

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JONNOG88

December 13th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

@salmagnum
You an embarrassment to humanity. To dispute Evolution is akin to denying that the Earth revolves around the Sun. If I may quote Sir David Attenborough
“Evolution is a fact. As sure as the fact that William the Conqueror. Landed at Pevensy in 1066.”

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menthol5

December 13th, 2010 at 11:54 pm

@salmagnum HEY ASSHOLE TROLL GO BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK.

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 12:11 am

@menthol5 And there you have it folks. Pretty much the other side’s argument in a nutshell as laid out in all its simplistic beauty by this hate-filled menthol5. He’s got it ALL figured out, might even have a diploma to show for it from one of the system schools to verify his ability to pass their tests! “We don’t want Truth, we want to be RIGHT! And if we don’t like what you have to say, we’ll string you up!” The mob was no more understanding when God himself was on this earth in human form.

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menthol5

December 14th, 2010 at 12:53 am

@salmagnum blow me asshole

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Quinstol

December 14th, 2010 at 1:34 am

@salmagnum You’re above attempting to marginalize people with condescending retorts, but you have absolutely no problem with dismissing entire fields of study as basically fraudulent without anything more to back it up to vague references to evidence “buried in the Smithsonian” and the like.

This isn’t the best forum for an in depth discussion, but surely most anything you could convey to me face-to-face could be composed and presented on a web site. Show me your arguments and evidence.

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 1:54 am

@menthol5 Ah, such enlightenment my friend! I am more against the pagan “church” of Rome & its pederasts (and organized religion in general) than you could ever be. You don’t understand the distinction between religion and Biblical Christianity, so you spew misguided bile. A blind hatred of what you call Christ. Typical. Had you an inkling of how this world really operates you would understand that Darwinian “scientists” and the Catholic religious institution are on the same team.

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menthol5

December 14th, 2010 at 2:45 am

@salmagnum another dumb-fuck Christer. You can troll for alterboys like your asshole priests. If I ever come one of your ‘holy’ men molesting a child, I’ll be arrested for murder.

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 3:10 am

@Quinstol “Random Internet Conspiracy Theorist”, is that like “Flat Earth Creationist”? Too bad we can’t meet face to face. You might have a few of your oh-so-convenient paradigms shattered…maybe not. No matter how far off base I might consider you, I will not attempt to marginalize you or engage in condescending retorts like so many I see on these forums doing. Just beware of generalizations, we creationists are very rarely the buck-toothed hillbillys of stereotype. Newton wasn’t

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 3:25 am

@Quinstol You are absolutely correct Quinstol. And I never will have any credibility. You are not afforded such, no matter how much proof (or even circumstantial evidence) you offer or how intelligently you pose your queries, given the realities of the current “enlightened”, “scientific” mindset. (And yes, the quotes indicate facetious intent.) I have talked to those few who have seen behind the proverbial curtain, and have experienced that which science cannot explain, that is all.

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Quinstol

December 14th, 2010 at 3:45 am

@salmagnum You’ve made three comments and have really said nothing to support any of your “points”. They’re just flat assertions that really don’t have any credibility coming from a random Internet conspiracy theorist.

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 4:10 am

Pt. 3: You don’t want to go there. You can’t. You can’t be wrong. Your belief system and values in this life depend upon it. You don’t want Truth, you just want to be “right”. Typical herd, sheep-bleating mentality. Enjoy yourselves. Ignorance is bliss…

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 4:15 am

Pt. 2: We Biblical creationists do not fear the supernatural as is commonly supposed by university-programmed automatons. I for one embrace it. Fact: The fossil record has been fabricated. Fact: What lies buried in the vaults of the Smithsonian and London Museum among other places would shake all you Darwinian atheists posing as credible scientists to the core.

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salmagnum

December 14th, 2010 at 4:39 am

Pt. 1 “100 years later…” oh, and the Age of Reason where they first said that God was dead. Laplace was a product of this culture, as is/was Darwin, Tyson, Dawkins, Sagan, et al. I wonder how many ppl would react to all the evidence supporting the Biblical account that has been swept under the rug were they allowed access to it.

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TheFunkyBuddhaa

December 14th, 2010 at 4:56 am

@tpstrat14 sorry man but religion makes you ignorant by, without any scientific proof denying other theories, it is a very critical error and damns you very much so in biological science but i do agree with the irony

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thepickletrain

December 14th, 2010 at 5:34 am

its not about religion or atheism, its about science

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s5b678

December 14th, 2010 at 6:24 am

Hah I love Dr. Tyson, he gets so into his lectures. I agree with Tyson that ID should be taught as it applies to history, but not as a legitimate scientific possibility. It is important that we remember how even the most brilliant among us can fall victim to ID and how it has in the past as it currently is today slowed the progress of science and held people back from reaching their full potential.

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MrOdyssey1999

December 14th, 2010 at 6:49 am

Neil DeGrasse Tyson, you are RIGHT, Intelligient Design, or ID for short, is a philosophy of ignorance, and of WILLFULL IGNORANCE. ID supporters LOVE building STRAW MEN, it is their #1 FAVORITE logical fallacy of all time!

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RedPILLisis

December 14th, 2010 at 7:36 am

I love this smart man

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DavidPennable

December 14th, 2010 at 7:40 am

ok, stop the infighting! people want to blow the sucker up or nudge it away with mutual grav tether, NO, FLY AHEAD OF IT PARALLEL TO IT’S TRAJECTORY, DROP AIR TANKS WITH EXPLOSIVES STRAPPED ON, CREATE AIR POCKETS TO ALTER IT’S COURSE, THEN MANEUVER IT TO HIGH ORBIT FOR SPACE MINING

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atheistram

December 14th, 2010 at 7:49 am

@tpstrat14 Chance is not God. So there are atheists.

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Lucuskane

December 14th, 2010 at 8:31 am

@HybridD91 I agree with your clarification, the context of my comment meant as such. For exponential growth in science, i think genome sequencing in high school or earlier could happen sooner if quantum computers are available for public use.

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HybridD91

December 14th, 2010 at 9:15 am

@Lucuskane You wouldn’t know about quantum mechanics if you had his mind because it wasn’t known during his time. If you mean by having his mental ability, you can surpass his mental ability by going to college. Undergrads today process and take in far more information than scientists in the past. Here’s the kicker, our “intelligence” will too be surpassed. Genome sequencing may be a high school project in the next 100 years or so.

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HybridD91

December 14th, 2010 at 9:55 am

@tpstrat14 Chance isn’t a mechanism or diety, it’s a possible outcome.

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GalileoWasRight

December 18th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

Lol, the level of conspiracy is stifling. Typical Christianists, always shifting the goalposts, setting up strawmen, bleating the same lame, tired sound bites. Left is right. White is black. And everything old is new again.

Some people must be predisposed to believe anything. Anyway, there’s really nothing you can do to convince someone who believes that evil liberal scientists are falsifying facts when they offer not a shred of proof.

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